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Old Jul 04, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57   #1
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Title says all: What's your wishlist for buffs and nerfs in the upcomming update?

These can be individual skills, or builds in overal. It can also be a functionality change or objective change in HoH...

Mine:

-> Overal new mechanic: Arrows can only be buffed by 1 +dmg skill.

-> Searing Flames: Whenever U hit more than 1 Foe, this skill takes an additional 10 seconds to recharge.

-> Liquid Flame: Damage by the same intervals as SF... {max 109 ish}

-> Wounding Strike Nerf

-> Hex stacking fixed: Elite hex always gets removed first, regardless of position in the stack.

-> Scythes: Lower scrit damage to 35.

-> Nerf expertise to 2% energy reduction - only works on ranger skills. Reduce energy costs of non-degenerative ranger skills, such as apply poison and others...

-> Revert HoH to old-school holding.


EDIT: This is just a WISHLIST, NOTHING SERIOUS, PLEASE DO NOT START POSTING: ' OMG DON'T NERF MY BUTTONBASH BUILD'

It' JUST a wishlist, something you, and ONLY YOU would like to see happening to HA...

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Old Jul 04, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59   #2
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00   #3
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All of those are totally impractical. I'll explain why you fail:

You're looking at ONLY heroes ascent, and taking the things you don't like and applying dramatic nerfs in all nonsense. Open your eyes, look arooooooound you, Guild Wars is a big game and there's other things out there.

Why are these threads are always so bad...?
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13   #4
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All of those are totally impractical. I'll explain why you fail:

You're looking at ONLY heroes ascent, and taking the things you don't like and applying dramatic nerfs in all nonsense. Open your eyes, look arooooooound you, Guild Wars is a big game and there's other things out there.

Why are these threads are always so bad...?
No rly...WoW, you really opened my eyes, how could I have been so ignorant...


I KNOW there is other formats. Thats why I posted it in the HA section, and not the general pvp one...

It's a WISHlist, not an advice list for Izzy. Read before flame plz...
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17   #5
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-> Nerf expertise to 2% energy reduction - only works on ranger skills. Reduce energy costs of non-degenerative ranger skills, such as apply poison and others...

Haha, how about no?

Have you played a Ranger?


Apply Posion is fine, with the current expertise, making your suggestion, pretty much useless
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #6
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lol @ [[searing flames]
with a maximum of 7 seconds of burning and a 12 sec recharge, you might just as well remove it from the game
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #7
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lol @ [[searing flames]
with a maximum of 7 seconds of burning and a 12 sec recharge, you might just as well remove it from the game
Which would hurt the game because?

A 2 second recharge skill that can be spammed indefinatly, which does 100 nearby AoE damage AND burning is good for the game why exactly?

SF is getting used in 2 builds atm: Any form of degenerative hex pressure and sfspike.

I fail to see how neither are important builds that don4t need to be nerfed...
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08   #8
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Mine:


- Nerf:

A): Expertise.
This is PvP. (Skill based) And this place wasn't meant for PvE'rs to "farm" their hero title with buttombashing builds like the R/D Scythe shizz, and R/W Thumperway.

If PvE'rs want to get in touch with PvP, they should actualy try their best, play builds they need to put some effort in to succeed with.


B): Wounding Strike.
Inflicts bleeding AND deep wound, for up to 3 other foes near your target.

This skill only costs 5 energy, and has a 3 second recharge time......No need to say more.


C): Searing Flames.
Increase the recharge time. The way it is now is just rediculous.


D): Ban heroes from Ha.
There is a reason why teams rather take Olias over other "real" players, this shouldn't be allowed.


- Buff:

A): Shadow Form.
Make it last for 30 seconds in PvP aswell.*Jaelous*
(Don't Quote Me On This)


B): Like 70% of the skills that aren't used in PvP whatsoever.
Skills such as: Amity, Pacifism, Skull Crack, Aneurysm, Persistence of Memory. (Ever heard of that one? ahh )


- Mechanic/Map Changes:

A): Add EVERY SINGLE unused Ha map back into the Map Rotation. (Scarred Earth, Broken Tower and Sacred Temples.)
There is enough skips already, and i realy dont get it why they, Anet, took those maps out of the map rotation anyway, you actualy needed "some" tactics to win at Sacred Temples, only smart teams will win in that map. (Oh no, about 75% of the Sways won't make it to Halls.)


B): Make ganks in Halls less common.
Therefor Anet should take out the objectives "Relicrun" and "Capture Points", and either keep this "new" altar holding, OR change it back to oldschool altar holding.

Me, and (probably) about 90% of the other Ha players are getting quite frustrated after getting ganked in Halls after a certain amount of consecutive wins, or even when you haven't won Halls a single time yet, that run.

This happens simply because people don't like you, or they're friends with the other team, or they just don't like the build you're playing.

By reverting the current Halls objectives back to the old system, ganks won't happen that often anymore, simply because a team has to hold the center altar till the last second of the match, in order to win. (unless, ofcourse they're not aiming on winning themselves.)





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Old Jul 04, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09   #9
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From a PvP prespective the wish list is not totally unreasonable, except the [shadow form] part.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15   #10
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-> Wounding Strike Nerf
7 recharge, reverse condition order.

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-> Scythes: Lower scrit damage to 35.
I would be happy to see scythes just die. They are quite overpowered for a martial weapon.

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-> Nerf expertise to 2% energy reduction - only works on ranger skills. Reduce energy costs of non-degenerative ranger skills, such as apply poison and others...
4% energy reduction on Ranger skills, 2% reduction on non-Ranger skills. As for thumpers, give RaO a hit and say goodbye to some of the crap.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47   #11
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4% energy reduction on Ranger skills, 2% reduction on non-Ranger skills. As for thumpers, give RaO a hit and say goodbye to some of the crap.
I can live with that
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59   #12
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Since this is "just a wish list" and nothing that needs to be implemented:

Shadow form: 5 energy. Enchantment. Cannot be target of spells or signets, and all attacks on you miss. When this spell ends, gain 800 health. 30 duration. 5 recharge.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11   #13
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Since this is "just a wish list" and nothing that needs to be implemented:

Shadow form: 5 energy. Enchantment. Cannot be target of spells or signets, and all attacks on you miss. When this spell ends, gain 800 health. 30 duration. 5 recharge.
You get it actually... It's not about balance, it's about what you individually want. (I know you werent serious, but you do get the point of the thread)
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20   #14
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Since this is "just a wish list" and nothing that needs to be implemented:

Shadow form: 5 energy. Enchantment. Cannot be target of spells or signets, and all attacks on you miss. When this spell ends, gain 800 health. 30 duration. 5 recharge.
Dude, Shadow Form isn't strong enough that way, you actualy forgot that well of profane can strip that shizz? And you're in the 2nd best GvG guild?! Make Shadow Form a SIGNET, and buff it to 65 sec, then i might actualy consider bringing that worthless skill.

(I hope you know i was just messing around.)




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Old Jul 04, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #15
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It' JUST a wishlist, something you, and ONLY YOU would like to see happening to HA...
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03   #16
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I laughed the whole time while reading this. You obviously get owned by sway,rspike,sfspike and probably everything else in halls at the moment. I hear no mention of anything being done to ritspike, which makes me think thats probably what you play and all you play. Being that only a handful of d-bags ritspike, it wont be nerfed and you can farm more skill-less fame without getting owned by crappy rspike teams.

I could show you extremely easy ways to beat rspike/sfspike/sway with no extreme game changing nerfs required. but i don't want to waste any time helping you be a better player , you only play builds with 7 healers and enough damage to spike a ghost instantly 3 times over. You should be ok.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30   #17
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I only want HoH to be like old-school holding.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46   #18
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I'm not nerfing OP builds, I'm nerfing overused builds.

25% of teams in HA now are Rspikes or A/D spikes with Rangers. Random %? I'm pretty sure i'm close to the actual one.

Searing Flames? If U fail to see this build is broken, you shouldn't PvP.

I make no mention of Ritspike, because Ritspike IS easy to beat. Shutdown N/E = win... They have to snare you inside the Rift for it to work. 1 mesmer is ALL you need against Ritspikes. (Spell Breaker gives them 1 free spike, and even then, the mesmer can still Cry 2-3 rifts)

Against Rspike, you're effed. There is no viable anti's to it, besides the crappy 'Shields Up', most of it due to the fact how overpowered Savage + Dshot combo is. They have it on 3 rangers...

Searing flames is simply PvE way, No need to say more

Anyways, I'm NOT stopping you from posting your wish list. Instead of QQ'ing here, defending Rspike once more, just make your own list:

-> Nerf Ritspike
-> Buff rspike cuz it's underpowered

It's not that hard, just have fun for posting once...
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38   #19
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My wishlist is new maps.
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